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2012-13 Honda Lease Rates – December 2012

Honda lease rates carry over from November. I am expecting more aggressive sale prices this month since it’s year end so be sure to hold out for the better discounts. The lease rates are sound for most models so you should be able to get a decent deal fairly easily. Honda is known for their aggressive lease programs, so I highly recommend them to 1st time lessees.

On a personal note, the wife and I have decided to pick up a Pilot EX 4WD this month. They are a bit tough to find in Southern CA because most people don’t need 4WD cars. However, we are thinking long-term and also planning to buy it out at lease end, so it makes a lot of sense. We were cross-shopping the 2013 Pathfinder and the Dodge Durango as well, but ultimately, you get the most bang for the buck with the Pilot. However, using the Lease-To-Own model, the Durango should be the better option. Unfortunately, I cannot afford the payments. Anyway, I don’t want to highjack the Honda post with my personal quest for the next ride so expect another post from me as I go through my research and negotiation.


Here is a sample calculation based on TrueCar’s Southern California sale price and do not include local taxes. Please note that your dealer calculations may vary due to local fees/taxes.

2013 HONDA PILOT EX 4WD
MSRP – $34100
Sale Price – $30600
Monthly – $330+ tax
RWG Rating – 98.9

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2013 HONDA ACCORD COUPE EX-L V6
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2013 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN EX-L V6
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC COUPE EX AT
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00054 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN EX AT
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00054 Base Rate

2013 HONDA CR-V 4WD EX-L AT
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-Z EX AT
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CROSSTOUR 4WD EX-L
36 Month – Residual 48% of MSRP – .00020 Base Rate

2013 HONDA FIT SPORT HATCHBACK AT
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2013 HONDA INSIGHT EX
36 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2013 HONDA ODYSSEY EX-L AT
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2013 HONDA PILOT 4WD EX-L
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00022 Base Rate

2013 HONDA RIDGELINE RTL
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

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2012-13 Honda Lease Rates – November 2012

As expected, Honda has brought down the residuals for the month of November. There has been a drop in money factor as well on select models, with the Pilot getting the most significant drop (from .00155 to .00022) Expect the numbers to remain the same through the remainder for the year. The Holiday Leasing Season has officially begun!


Here is a sample calculation based on TrueCar’s Southern California sale price and do not include local taxes. Please note that your dealer calculations may vary due to local fees/taxes.

2013 HONDA CR-V 4WD EX-L AT
MSRP – $29575
Sale Price – $27600
Monthly – $344+ tax
RWG Rating – 86.8

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2013 HONDA ACCORD COUPE EX-L V6
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2013 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN EX-L V6
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC COUPE EX AT
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00054 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN EX AT
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00054 Base Rate

2013 HONDA CR-V 4WD EX-L AT
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-Z EX AT
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CROSSTOUR 4WD EX-L
36 Month – Residual 48% of MSRP – .00020 Base Rate

2013 HONDA FIT SPORT HATCHBACK AT
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2013 HONDA INSIGHT EX
36 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2013 HONDA ODYSSEY EX-L AT
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2013 HONDA PILOT 4WD EX-L
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00022 Base Rate

2013 HONDA RIDGELINE RTL
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

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2012-13 Honda Lease Rates – October 2012

Nothing too crazy here. New Accord’s numbers came in about what I expected. Relatively high residual along with a high money factor. Last month’s Truecar sales data has the sale of 2013 Accords all over the map. Anywhere from invoice to well over MSRP (silly early adopters…haahaa). Anyway,the car looks solid and should give the Camry, Altima and Sonata some good competition.

Looking over the SUV market, I think prices should drop in the California market because of the insanely high gas prices. If you are a poor schmuck like me who needs the space but doesn’t want to pay over $100 bucks to fill up 3/4 of a tank, go with something more moderate, like a CRV. Not sure I like this month’s numbers on this crossover, though. It needs some Holiday Season cash to sweeten the deal if you ask me.


Here is a sample calculation based on TrueCar’s Southern California sale price and do not include local taxes. Please note that your dealer calculations may vary due to local fees/taxes.

2013 HONDA CR-V 4WD EX-L AT
MSRP – $29575
Sale Price – $27600
Monthly – $344+ tax
RWG Rating – 86.8

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2012 HONDA ACCORD COUPE EX-L V6
36 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00046 Base Rate

2013 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN EX-L V6
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC COUPE EX AT
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00053 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN EX AT
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00053 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CROSSTOUR 4WD EX-L
36 Month – Residual 49% of MSRP – .00020 Base Rate

2013 HONDA FIT SPORT HATCHBACK AT
36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2013 HONDA ODYSSEY EX-L AT
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2013 HONDA PILOT 4WD EX-L
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2013 HONDA CR-V 4WD EX-L AT
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-Z EX AT
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate

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2012 Honda Lease Rates – September 2012

Numbers don’t look as obvious as some of the other brands. Residuals, for most cars, dropped. However, Honda didn’t drop the MFs to compensate, they bumped it up a bit. So what’s the deal? Well, it looks like here is marketing (dealer) cash available on practically every single 2012 left in stock. This is probably the last month I will be posting 2012 numbers so expect 2013s to pop up next month. Taking a look at the Accord, there is $1750 in dealer marketing cash available. I have taken the lowest sold price on the LX Accord, but I am willing to bet there’s a little extra wiggle room due to the dealer cash. Be sure to take advantage of it.

On a more personal note, wife and I took a spin on the 2012 Honda Pilot Touring. We are looking closely at the EX 4WD, which we will more than likely pick up in the Bay Area since So Cal is devoid of 4WD Pilots. However, it looks like the 2013 will have Bluetooth and backup camera as standard equipment (even on the lowly LX), so there is a possibility we hold out for the 2013…Which brings me to our dilemma…what to do with the 2010 Jetta Wolfsburg? Do we buy it and drop the Sonata when the 2013 gets cheap next Fall? Do we go with go all out with the 2012 Touring 4WD? Decisions, decisions…


Here is a sample calculation based on TrueCar’s Southern California sale price and do not include local taxes. Please note that your dealer calculations may vary due to local fees/taxes.

2012 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN LX AT
MSRP – $23,070
Sale Price – $19,558
Monthly – $237+ tax
RWG Rating – 94.8

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2012 HONDA ACCORD COUPE LX-S AT
36 Month – Residual 50% of MSRP – .00046 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN LX AT
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00046 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC COUPE LX AT
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00067 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN LX AT
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00067 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ACCORD CROSSTOUR 4WD EX-L
36 Month – Residual 49% of MSRP – .00020 Base Rate

2012 HONDA FIT HATCHBACK AT
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00175 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ODYSSEY LX AT
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00032 Base Rate

2012 HONDA PILOT 4WD LX
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00048 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-V 4WD LX AT
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00161 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-Z HATCHBACK AT
36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00175 Base Rate

2012 HONDA RIDGELINE CREW CAB RT
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00175 Base Rate

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2012 Honda Lease Rates – August 2012

Most cars lease rates stayed the same. CRZ, CRV and Ridgeline got MF reductions. Honda clearance event is going on now, so it is a good time to go out and see what kind of deals you can get.
I recommend that you check out last year’s Honda posts and she when the cutoff of 2011/2012 models happens. That should give you a good indication when the 2013s will arrive. By the way, TrueCar changed their chart (yet again) and the dealer cost doesn’t show anymore. I said it some time ago, but I get the feeling that it’s going to get harder and harder for consumers to negotiate a good price because information is becoming harder to get.


Here is a sample calculation based on TrueCar’s Southern California sale price and do not include local taxes. Please note that your dealer calculations may vary due to local fees/taxes.

2012 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN LX AT
MSRP – $23,070
Sale Price – $19,714 (sold at about dealer cost)
Monthly – $216+ tax
RWG Rating – 101.3

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2012 HONDA ACCORD COUPE LX-S AT
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00046 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN LX AT
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00046 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC COUPE LX AT
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00077 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN LX AT
36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00077 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ACCORD CROSSTOUR 4WD EX-L
36 Month – Residual 51% of MSRP – .00060 Base Rate

2012 HONDA FIT HATCHBACK AT
36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00175 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ODYSSEY LX AT
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00063 Base Rate

2012 HONDA PILOT 4WD LX
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00039 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-V 4WD LX AT
36 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00175 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-Z HATCHBACK AT
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00175 Base Rate

2012 HONDA RIDGELINE CREW CAB RT
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00175 Base Rate

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2012 Honda Lease Rates – July 2012

Pretty much the expected drop in residual and mf. Nothing out of the norm. The sale prices on the Accords are coming at or near dealer cost, which is really good. It’s Accord clearance time and it shows. I see tons of people getting new Accords nowadays and I don’t blame them. If you are shopping for a family sedan that’s refined and reliable, this is the one to get.


Here is a sample calculation based on TrueCar’s Southern California sale price and do not include local taxes. Please note that your dealer calculations may vary due to local fees/taxes.

2012 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN LX AT
MSRP – $23,070
Sale Price – $19,714 (sold at about dealer cost)
Monthly – $216+ tax
RWG Rating – 101.3

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2012 HONDA ACCORD COUPE LX-S AT
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00046 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN LX AT
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00046 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC COUPE LX AT
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00077 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN LX AT
36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00077 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ACCORD CROSSTOUR 4WD EX-L
36 Month – Residual 51% of MSRP – .00060 Base Rate

2012 HONDA FIT HATCHBACK AT
36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00185 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ODYSSEY LX AT
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00063 Base Rate

2012 HONDA PILOT 4WD LX
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00039 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-V 4WD LX AT
36 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00180 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-Z HATCHBACK AT
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00185 Base Rate

2012 HONDA RIDGELINE CREW CAB RT
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00185 Base Rate

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2012 Honda Lease Rates – June 2012

Not a lot of changes with Honda lease rates this month. Everything look about the same as last month. The Accord is getting a refresh soon (Hyundai, Toyota, Nissan have already done so), so expect the current Accord to be the last of it’s generation. This typically means good deals can be had through the model year (i.e. $1250 dealer cash). Below, I did a very “conservative” estimate of Invoice – $1250 dealer cash. My recommendation is to make an initial offer that is lower than my estimate and go no further than invoice – dealer cash.


Here is a sample calculation based on TrueCar’s Southern California sale price and do not include local taxes. Please note that your dealer calculations may vary due to local fees/taxes.

2012 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN LX AT
MSRP – $23,070
Sale Price – $20,159
Monthly – $229+ tax
RWG Rating – 97.2

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2012 HONDA ACCORD COUPE LX-S AT
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00065 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN LX AT
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00065 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC COUPE LX AT
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00077 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN LX AT
36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00077 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ACCORD CROSSTOUR 2WD EX I4
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00084 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ACCORD CROSSTOUR 4WD EX-L
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00084 Base Rate

2012 HONDA FIT HATCHBACK AT
36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00185 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ODYSSEY LX AT
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00102 Base Rate

2012 HONDA PILOT 4WD LX
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00039 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-V 4WD LX AT
36 Month – Residual 63% of MSRP – .00185 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-Z HATCHBACK AT
36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00185 Base Rate

2012 HONDA RIDGELINE CREW CAB RT
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00185 Base Rate

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2012 Honda Lease Rates – May 2012

I am not seeing any changes yet on Honda lease rates, so as of now, I am going to stick with last month’s numbers. I will revisit the numbers mid-month to see if anything changes.

TrueCar changed their website, yet again. I am not seeing their “lowest price” anymore so I will base my calculations based MSRP minus the “average savings”. With that in mind, I still think the Accord SE is an excellent lease. The Altima is also very good so make sure you cross-shop before making your final decision.


Here is a sample calculation based on TrueCar’s Southern California sale price and do not include local taxes. Please note that your dealer calculations may vary due to local fees/taxes.

2012 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN SE AT
MSRP – $24,700
Sale Price – $21,079
Monthly – $229+ tax
RWG Rating – 102.6

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2012 HONDA ACCORD COUPE EX-L V6
36 Month – Residual 50% of MSRP – .00065 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN EX-L V6
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00065 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ACCORD SEDAN SE AT
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00065 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC COUPE EX AT
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00130 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN EX AT
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00130 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CROSSTOUR 2WD V6 EX-L
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00084 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CROSSTOUR 4WD V6 EX-L
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00084 Base Rate

2012 HONDA FIT SPORT HATCHBACK AT
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00185 Base Rate

2012 HONDA ODYSSEY EX-L AT
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00115 Base Rate

2012 HONDA PILOT 4WD EX-L
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00033 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-V 4WD EX-L AT
36 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00185 Base Rate

2012 HONDA CR-Z EX AT
36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00185 Base Rate

2012 HONDA RIDGELINE RTL
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00185 Base Rate